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A stone object from the Piedras del Padre Nazario collection, filmed in the laboratory of Puerto Rican archaeologist Reniel Rodríguez, who has been studying their origins for years. The National Museum of Natural History has 4 of these stones in their collection, labeled as fakes. Image courtesy of the artists.

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Thinking through and beyond historical relatedness, relations, and relativism of past and ongoing colonial erasure, imperial violence, and genocide, Palestinian architectural scholar and urbanist Mahdi Sabbagh and writer and genocide scholar Zoé Samudzi take on the coloniality of the museum, the ethnographic archive, and architecture. Their conversation oscillates between their work as scholars and researchers in institutional settings as well as their personal and bodily experiences within them. They each grapple with the challenges and opportunities for intervening, altering, and amending archives, museums, and other history-bearing institutions, with the awareness that they are already revisionist accounts of the past. Speaking to individual and communal practices and legacies, they discuss the role of objects and rituals in reckoning with history, narrating counter histories and the potential for solidarity and liberation across past and ongoing struggles.


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Mahdi Sabbagh is an architectural scholar and urbanist. He is a co-curator of the Palestine Festival of Literature and Editor at large at the Avery Review. He is the editor of Their Borders, Our World (Haymarket Press 2024) and is a 2023 Matakyev Research Fellow at the Center for Imagination in the Borderlands...

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Zoé Samudzi is the Charles E. Scheidt Visiting Assistant Professor of Genocide Studies and Genocide Prevention at the Strassler Center for Holocaust and Genocide Studies at Clark University. She is a Research Associate at the Center for the Study of Race, Gender, and Class at the University of Johannesburg...

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Zoé Samudzi

Zoé Samudzi is the Charles E. Scheidt Visiting Assistant Professor of Genocide Studies and Genocide Prevention at the Strassler Center for Holocaust and Genocide Studies at Clark University. She is a Research Associate at the Center for the Study of Race, Gender, and Class at the University of Johannesburg, and a critic in Painting/Printmaking at Yale University and Painting at the Rhode Island School of Design. She is also a writer and an associate editor with Parapraxis Magazine.

Mahdi Sabbagh

Mahdi Sabbagh is an architectural scholar and urbanist. He is a co-curator of the Palestine Festival of Literature and Editor at large at the Avery Review. He is the editor of Their Borders, Our World (Haymarket Press 2024) and is a 2023 Matakyev Research Fellow at the Center for Imagination in the Borderlands. His work has been published in the Journal of Public Culture, Jerusalem Quarterly, Curbed, Architecture of the Territory (Kaph Books 2022), Open Gaza (AUC Press 2021), the Funambulist, Arab Urbanism, Awham Magazine, and PLATFORM. Mahdi is a Doctoral Student at Columbia University and holds a Masters in Architecture from Yale.

Carlos Motta

Carlos Motta’s multidisciplinary practice documents the social conditions and political struggles of sexual, gender, and ethnic minority communities to challenge normative discourses through visibility and representation. As a historian of untold narratives and an archivist of repressed histories, Motta is committed to in-depth research on the struggles of post-colonial subjects and societies. Motta received his MFA from Bard College and completed the Whitney Independent Study Program in 2006. His work has been the subject of survey exhibitions, including Carlos Motta: Formas de libertad at the Museo de Arte Moderno de Medellín, Colombia (2017), which traveled to Matucana100, Santiago, Chile, in 2018, and Carlos Motta: For Democracy There Must Be Love Röda Sten Konsthall in Gothenburg, Sweden (2015), and a 2022 solo survey exhibition Your Monsters, Our Idols at the Wexner Center of the Arts, Columbus, OH. In 2019, Motta was appointed tenure-track Associate Professor of Interdisciplinary Practice at Pratt Institute’s Fine Arts Department. Carlos Motta: History’s Backrooms, a 20-year career monograph, was published by SKIRA in June 2020. His work is part of Marco Scotini’s Disobedience Archive at the sixtieth Venice Biennale. Motta will be the subject of a mid-career survey exhibition at Museu d’Art Contemporani de Barcelona, Spain, in 2025. Motta contributed to the VLC exhibition OURS: Democracy in the Age of Branding and several other programs.

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